On P-12 and higher education:
They're two different governing systems, they have different personnel, they have different purposes and very different cultures. Elementary and secondary education have the obligation to educate everyone; higher education historically has been there to educate only those people who chose to be there What we are trying to do now, here and every place, is heal that up. Higher education is sensitive to it, but it's been a very slow go.On money:
We have made great progress, but we're still about $1,800 a student below the national average in spending. Our production is way ahead of our investment. Just money without good ideas doesn't make any sense, but just good ideas with no money doesn't make any sense either.On aiming high
We've spent the last 100 years near the bottom. Let's spend the next 100 years much closer to the top. We've shown we can do this.The full interview is here.